In this episode of the Intangible Podcast, Chris Spencer sits down with Jake McKenzie, VP of Membership & Community Engagement for PAC (Pro Athlete Community). Jake’s journey from foster care and instability to becoming one of the most trusted leaders helping pro athletes transition into life beyond sports is powerful and deeply human.

Jake opens up about his early upbringing, the identity battles that came with leaving football, and how vulnerability became his greatest strength. He explains the heart behind PAC and the “new locker room” they’re building—one designed to give current and former pros a space to grow, connect, and rediscover their purpose.

This conversation is full of insight for athletes navigating transition, parents raising resilient kids, and coaches trying to develop true leaders. Jake breaks down why values matter, how to train mental toughness through hard things, and what it looks like to carry your intangibles into the next chapter of life.

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This episode was sponsored by The Legacy Group and Jim Candella, Senior Vice President with UBS Financial Services in their Frankin, TN office.

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